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What theme do you guys want this year's art fight theme to be?
God I'm so hyped for this year's art fight season, all the themes sound like such good concepts
I voted 1) Lovestruck vs Heartbreak, 2) Heart vs Soul, 3) Unicorns vs Dragons!!
woo!! so excited for art fight this year!!
HEART VS SOUL FTW BABYYY CANT WAIT FOR AF2025
ARCTIC VS TROPIC ENJOYERS WE SHALL PREVAIL RAHHHHHH
Arctic vs Tropic represent!
Also hoping this post spurs new people to join our little minigames cult...
Good luck to the ArtFight team and I hope to see everyone in July!
destruction vs creation would be cool
glimmer vs gloom fsss
I LOVE YOU ART FIGHT!!!!! unicorns vs dragons gang rise up
Yippee news
FOSSIL vs CRYSTALS JOIN TOGETHER
Ooh there are some good themes here! My top 3 were time vs space, unicorns vs dragons, and destruction vs creation
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak is a great theme and its my top choice! I love all the others tho
Better late then Never I suppose...
Top 3 are def destruction v creation, time v space and fossils v crystals!! Super excited for this year AAA!!

Glimmer v gloom and flora v fauna feel so similar to wither v bloom tho
art fight art fight
This sounds so cool!!
Rainy, If there is anything that we as a artfight group can do to help let us know!
I can draw things and animate, so if that skill set is at all helpful I'd love to help ^^

Best of luck and don't burn out!!!!
Your well being is important :)
I voted 1) Arctic vs tropic, 2) Heart vs Soul, and 3) Glimmer vs Gloom
frutiger aero vs frutiger metro !!!

i wanted to be BLUE vs GREEN!
YES NEWS I LOVE NEWS OH HOW I MISSED YOU BELOVED NEWS POSTS
Please, Ive been waiting to be team Dragon for years now :D
Nice themes again and I love the resize feature! Keep up the awesome work! <3
Thank you so much Axel and Turtle for ur contributions!!! And much luck towards Rainy!
HEART VS SOUL PLEAAAAAAASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i'm excited about artfight this year!!! RAHHHH!!!!
CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST NIGHTS!!

Honestly though, all of the themes this year were cool, so I’d be happy no matter which one got in!!
Yay, can’t wait for Artfight this year
I needdd Unicorns vs. Dragons as a hardcore dragon lover!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I CAN’T WAIT!!
YEAHHHH NEW NEWS POST!!! IVE LITERALLY BEEN OPENING ART FIGHT EVERYDAY DAY WAITING AND ITS HERE!!!!!!
I like a good few of the themes bUT I'M SO BUMMED ABOUT HEROES VS VILLAINS BEING BOOTED NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Maybe next year ... but god I need that theme to happen so bad
*funny comment*
Praying for Arctic vs Tropic yet again
GLIMMER VS GLOOM LIKERS RISE UP RAAAAAA!!!!!
THESE ARE SO GOOD THESE ARE SO GOOD IM GOING INSANE IM GOING FERAL

i nEEEEEED LOVESTRUCK VS HEARTBREAK OR CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST NIGHTS.................................. YURI OR GENDER WHO WILL WIN
I'm hoping this will finally be the year I get artic v tropic, i'm on my hands and knee's and pleading
pls dont be unicorns vs dragons...
time vs space for the win!!
The main one I really enjoy is Flora vs Fauna but there are so many good options
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak PLEAAAAAAAASE
honestly all these options are dope i dont think there are any that i would be sad for them to win
FOSSILS V CRYSTALS BABY WOOO I LOVE ROCKS
THEMES
FOSSILS VS CRYSTALS LETS GO!!

Also wishing Turtle and Axel well after stepping down!!
glimmer vs gloom or city lights vs forest nights both sound very fun and cool.
FOSSILS VS CRYSTALS PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU /nf

My top 3 picks for 2025: Fossils vs Crystals, City Light vs Forest Nights, Arctic vs Tropic
First artfight ever can’t wait
Ooo I can't wait for this !^^
ooompf THESE ARE AMAZING I WANT CITY LIGHTS HEHEH
I'm so sad Comedy vs Tradgedy isn't with us this year hsgdhndhgg I WOULD DIE FOR THAT
i wish it was hope vs despair… we were robbed… but no fr unicorns vs dragons would be fire
GIMMEE DRAGON VS UNICORNS OR FOSSILS VS CRYSTALSSSS
IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS YEAR
Aaa I’m so excited!! Last year was my first artfight and I haven’t stopped talking about it since :D (vote glimmer vs gloom it sounds cool haha)
I'm liking the sound of Fossils vs Crystals >:D
creation vs destruction would be amazing for me specifically :3
Heroes vs Villains once again out, guess time vs. space goes to win.
IM SO SAD COMEDY VS TRAGEDY ISNT AN OPTION ANYMORE FOR THE THEME BUT IM ALSO STILL SO EXCITED FOR AF 2025 AAAAHHH
Time vs space WE
FLORA VS FAUNA 💥💥💥💥
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAA
Dragon's vs. Unicorns sounds so awesome WHAT!! I liked Time vs. Space as well as Lovestruck vs Heartbreak though, agh so tough!! Amazing themes this year!!

And I know you likely won't see this, but I totally understand stepping down, Life is totally wakadoo sometimes!! Still supporting all of you along the way though, you guys did great work and I'm super excited to continue artfight this year!! It'll be my 4th, and you have all been totally amazing!! (You too moderators! >:D)


EEEEE I'm so impatiently waiting on Artfight 2025 !!
IMAGINE!!! bombs and fire and arson and stuff on one side, paint and light and growth on the other- it'd be so cool!!!
💕💛💕💛💕💛💥
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT TODAY COULDN'T GET ANY BETTER
Me personally I like the Time/Space, Heart/Soul ones better than ones like Flora/Fauna and Glimmer/Gloom because those two seem too close to Bloom/Wither
Fossils vs crystals sounds so cool!!!
I can't wait for artfight so I can draw a butch of characters!
YES!!! Those were my top two as well
Heros Vs Villains ain’t done nothing wrong. Bring them back
Wow a lot of people lol
Artfight getogether yall
I hope it's unicorns vs dragons!
I can't wait to decorate this year and make my themed character
COMEDY VS TRAGEDY NOOOO COME BACK TO ME😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Love the new themes
Fossils vs Crystals sounds really cool
Hoping for heartbreak vs lovestruck or heart vs soul!!
Heart VS Soul has my whole heart.. and soul XD also city lights vs forest nights sounds so beautiful and aesthetic!!
Destruction vs creation??? Where y’all at >:D
Hoping this will finally be the year of Arctic vs Tropic 🤞🏻

Regardless though, looking forward to it! Thanks for all you guys do! 💙💙💙
LETS GO
ooo glimmer and gloom?? flight rising gang where y'all at 👀
So hyped for my second year participating in this awesome event. I voted flora v fauna 1 💪💪
Unicorns and fossils please please 👁👁🫶💖
Yippiee!!
damn... that's a lot of good themes. too bad we only get artfight once a year huh
Creation Vs Destruction sounds interesting :3
mages vs knights or claws vs paws sounds cool :wormsqueeze:
I'm so excited for this year!!! Y'all are doing great!!!!! Hoping for time vs space or lovestruck vs heartbreak to win X3
flora vs fauna truther🤞🤞
Unicorns vs dragons animal jam reference 😱😱😱
Arctic vs Tropic!!!
Dang finally!! Well it’s time for all of us formerly using the previous newspost to chat to start using this one!
Thank you Rainy for all the work you've done for the website (heart emoji) (heart emoji)
ah, it’s time for me to start chugging the arctic/tropic copium once more lmaooo
First time voting! Hoping Time vs Space wins! :D
I'm not ready for artfight
COMEDY VS TRAGEDY MY BELOVED THEY TOOK YOU AWAY FROM ME 💔💔💔
for sure for sure, forests and city lights sound so unique
YAYY!!!!! the options for themes this year are so cool!!!!!
TIME VS SPACE WOOOO!!! and fossils vs crystals.. and arctic vs tropic
UNICORNS VS DRAGONS SOUNDS SO FUN :(((
FRRRR I WAS SO SAD WHEN I READ IT there were some good options though
All the themes are so cool! I’m hoping for either Time vs Space or City Lights vs Forest Nights!
creation vs destruction sounds so interesting omgaa
also dragons/unicorns... aj reference... vhsjvdhbjd
COMEDY VS TRAGEDY NOOOOOOOOO WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU 💔💔💔
i love glimmer and gloom 😭 i cant wait for this years artfight AHH
Fossil vs Crystals would be so cool
I WAS SO EXCITED FOR THAT ONE BRO 💔 still pumped though
one year time v space will win. one year. and i will finally be on team time. one year i swear itll finally happen. everything will pay off. it will be glorious
This is my first time voting, I really hope Unicorns vs Dragons wins, I love dragons <33
RIP Knights vs Dragons...
damn, no pirates vs. cowboys. sad day for artfighters
kidding, excited for the upcoming season! ,':-)
WHERE'S MY TIME VS SPACE GANG AT?!? >:D (ALSO CITY LIGHTS/FOREST NIGHTS AND DESTRUCTION/CREATION OMG)
IM SAD ABOUT THAT TOOO MFMFHHG I WAS SO HYPED FOR THAT TEAM SM
Maybe it’s just me but I am very against City nights vs forest nights because we already had bloom versus wither, and I believe it would just become an instant forest nights sweep
LETS GO!!!
Exciting Can’t wait for this years art fight
And the Mass Download Feature sounds really useful I’ll probably use it to put the images in my Fan Art Folder on my usb drive
I need to delete a character off of art fight to add my new character
yaay
Comedy vs Tragedy and Heroes vs Villains not returning as potential themes this year is unfortunate, but I'm excited to see which of the available options ends up getting picked!! ArtFight time is my favorite time
The theme fossils vs crystal sounds so cool I can't wait to participate in my first art fight
GO TIME VS SPACE !!!!
NOOO NOT COMEDY VS TRAGEDY N HEROES VS VILLAINS WHAT !!
LET'S GOOOOO!!!
Can't wait for this year's fight
Was last years theme werewolves versus vampires or was it something elss?
TIME VS SPACE AMIRIGHT
Im a little scared for artfight [cry]
for real, unicorns vs dragons sounds fun too but I was hyped about the idea of being team knight/all the knight aesthetics.
C'mon City Lights vs. Forest Nights Pleeeeeeeaaaseeeeee
TIME AND SPACE ALL THE WAY
Time v Space gang rise up !!!
wowee
I love art fight :D
👏CREATION VS DESTRUCTION👏 AND 👏TIME VS SPACE,👏 PLEASE- EITHER ONE OF THESE
FOSSILS VS CRYSTALS HEHEEHHEEHEH
praying for lovestruck vs heartbreak ‼️‼️‼️
unicorns vs dragons for me.
City Lights v.s. Forest Nights!!!
I'm so excited! Many of the themes in the poll would make excellent additions to the banners. I'm so happy to be brewing for this year. Last year was my very first time and I think this year will be better than ever!
comedy vs tragedy deserved so much better 💔💔
I said this on the discord but i think it's worth saying here:
While i'm glad to see an update from the team on themes for this year, i'm very unsatisfied with the lack of word from the new team on the budget. not a word has been breathed about what they're going to do to regain trust going forwards with the new team and after the amount of time that has passed since AF 2024 that really isn't good enough. Happy to welcome Rainy as the new owner and excited for the upcoming AF but not satisfied with the response from staff at all. Especially when the fact that fundraising goal 2 has been reached and not a word has been said about it even to thank people for contributing.
DRAGONS VS UNICORNS COMEONNMNNNNN
R.I.P hope vs despair… you will always be remembered.. 💔🐻‍❄️🐰⚖️💀🙅
RIP Comedy Vs Tragedy 😭 Well time to sweep for Destruction VS Creation 🗣️🗣️🗣️
All of these themes are so cool but omg I absolutely LOVE the City Lights VS Forest Nights one ;o; And the Destruction VS Creation one tooo eeeeeeeeek I am so excited to see what the theme will be this year!!
i really want time vs space cause i wanna be on team time but it was just stardust so idk 💔
WE NEEED TIME VS SPACE PLEASE
TIME VS SPACE GUYS PLEASE I NEED AN EXCUSE TO SPREAD TEAM GALACTIC PROPAGANDA
I KNOWW I really would have loved that one
EEEHEEHEEHEE
I CANT WAIT!!
Yesss another dragon fan!! Dragons are the best!!
Destruction vs Creation would fit my main oc’s SOOO bad fr
Destruction Vs Creation City Lights Vs Forest Nights and Time vs Space
Destruction vs creation<3
I'm voting for Destruction vs Creation, then Unicorns vs Dragons! :3
man,, what happened to knights vs dragons?? unicorns is infinitely worse
Auuugh I hope Fossils vs Crystals win I want the rocks!!! Please !!!!! Fossils !!!!!!!!!!!
City Lights vs Forest Nights!! I love this theme so much
So pumped for another year of Art Fight! All of the possible themes look really fun, and I can’t wait to see which one wins! ✧。٩(ˊᗜˋ )و✧*。
UNICORNS VS DRAGONS . . . FOSSILS VS CRYSTALS . . . CITY LIGHT VS FOREST NIGHTS . . . FLORA VS FAUNA . . . YOU GUYS ARE COOKING NGL…
They... Did acknowledge it though? They said they're making a separate post about it later
TIME VS SPACE WOULD BE PEAK PLEASEEEEEEEEEE
TIME VS SPACE PLEASE I NEED IT TO BE THE THEME 🗣❗️
oh yay!
Anyone have Riolu characters?
ty ArtFight Team! it's been ages since there's no newpost.

also Flora vs Fauna would be peak!
TIME AND SPACE PLEAASSEEEE I NEED THIS
I want flora and fawna so bad I just love having the excuse to draw pretty mushroom on everything
Destruction vs Creation sounds philosophical. I love this theme!
Also TimeVsSpace seems cool
PLEAASEEE HEARTBREAK VS LOVESTRUCK OR FLORA VS FAUNA IM SO EXCITED FOR THESE
Real
FOSSILS VS CRYSTALS OR UNICORNS VS DRAGONS PLEASEEEEEEEEE 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
WE LOST COMEDY VS TRAGEDY CLOWN GIRLS MOURN WITH ME
HEARTBREAK VS LOVESTRUCK or CREATION vs DESTRUCTION PLS THOSE LOOK SO FUN!!!
CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST NIGHTS PLEASEEEE ITS SO UNIQUE (i miss comedy vs tragedy tho</33)
Unicorns vs Dragons? Perfect to feed my MLP obsession
hoping for city lights vs forest nights OR arctic vs tropic!!
glimmer vs gloom
love lovestruck vs heartbreak, miss knights vs dragons (why is it unicorns now </3 where did the knights go.........)
I HOPE FOR FLORA VS FAUNA HIHIHIHIHI
CREATION VS DESTRUCTION PLEASE PLEASE I BEG MY OC WOULD LOVE YOU
how do you choose omg i love unicrons n dragons, flora vs fauna, fossils, bababbababbabab
DESTRUCTION VS CREATION IS A MUST
I’m begging on my hands and knees for Fossils vs Crystals-
when af-help channel opens in 2025?
Fossils vs crystals would be so sick
artfight! just a week away! ((fossils v crystals win💥💥))
HEARTBREAK VS LOVESTRUCK IS SO GOOD. also time vs. space....? DIALIGA AND PALKIA IS THAT YOU??? We have to have another theme that can be realted to pokemon PLEASE!!!
flora vs fauna has grown on me since last year, that one’s at the top of my list. I’d be happy with any theme tho
Yaoi Vs Yuri would go hard (kudos tp my cousin who said it first)
that goes hard im team Yuri all the way 🔥
TEAM GALATIC!!!!!
I NEED City Nights vs Forest Lights so bad!
Or Heartbreak vs Lovestruck, I can think of so much cool art for that too
Soul vs heart?
Time vs space
Creation vs destruction?????
My pokemon heart cant take this
i know itd be two space themes in a row so i doubt its happening but would love to see time v space, though tbh im interested in pretty much any besides heart v soul and lovestruck v heartbreak.
surprised by the amount of folks rooting for "Time vs Space" considering that we JUST had Team Stardust lol
Had so much fun with Ary Fight last summer, I got so excited when my friend told me polls for this year were open 🥳🥳
Fingers crossed for Heart vs. Soul!
(Also, as a suggestion for the AF team, could there be a way to have Minigames outside of Discord? I don’t have it and know others who don’t as well, and I would love to participate if they weren’t on Discord :))
arctic vs tropic is my top pick but aaaahhhhhh everything sounds awesome
Destruction vs creation my fav
WE'LL NEVER FORGET YOU COMEDY VS TRAGEDY !!!!
CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST LIGHTS COME ON!!
TEAM YURI SWEEP
HEART VS SOUL ‼️‼️‼️‼️ I NEED IT SO BAD heartbreak vs love struck is amazing too.. I just want something heart themed LMAOAHSGEHWKWHSVSHWOWJSBVS
Hoping for Glimmer VS Gloom!
LOVESTRUCK VS HEARTBREAK !!!
AWESOMEEE... lovestruck vs. heartbroken was my top pick, cant wait for my second year , I've been practicing HARD since july☝️
Dragon! Dragon! DRAGON!!!
NOOOOOO Comedy vs tragedy is not on there D:

Ehh these are kinda eh BUt Time vs Space
Dawg I need fossils vs crystals to win this /hj
Also honestly all of these team ideas are perfect! (To me at least) Ive already picked which team id want for each of them lol. The only one that would be hard for me to pick would be lovestruck vs heartbreak or whatever (mostly because i dont really care for either ideas lol)
Super exited to see what this year brings!
I WANT TO BE TEAM HEARTBREAK SO BAD 💚💛🤍🖤 PLEASE. DO IT FOR THE AROMANTICS. IT'S AROSPEC AWARENESS WEEK
I'm go for team lovestuck versus heartbreak. I'm team lovestruck definitely. also really like city lights versus forest nights. I'm so hyped for Art Fight this year!!!!!!!!!
NOO!! There's no comedy vs tragedy! :'[

Crossing my fingers for creation vs destruction. I'm fine with everything else but heart vs soul or glimmer vs gloom
Who is rainy?
I really like the concept of all of these themes, but time vs space almost feels to me like you're taking steampunk and pitting it against stardust (plus the fact that stardust is space themed, which we just had last year).
My favorite is Arctic vs Tropic. It's really smart and a fun concept to mess with! You could make attacks with characters in the respective climate, maybe even beach themed pieces? Can't wait for artfight this year!!!
Oh lord, two equally good options that fit my interests
Dragons, and Fossils-
I’ve been a fan of creation vs destruction for a while now, I put it as my #1 last year and this year 💙
maybe it's just my aromanticism talking but i'm not really a fan of lovestruck vs heartbreak...

anyways city lights vs forest nights fans wya???
SPACE V TIME FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!
THESE R SO COOLLL
I don't want to be a downer, but is Glimmer vs Gloom going to work out well, given it's nearly identical to Glimmer and Gloom (Flight Rising fairgrounds minigame name) and the Flight Rising game has been around since at least 2019?

ETA: btw GO DRAGONS VS UNICORNS YAY :D
I’m so sad comedy vs tragedy didn’tk make the cut but Hoping for Creatian/Destruckstion glimmer against gloom or heart vs soul (also I know my grammar is horrendous- sorry- my brain is like half asleep)
LOVESTRUCK and heartbreak is so good man 😭🙏🙏
Exactly! Unicorns v Dragons still ranks relatively high for me but gosh I would have loved Knights so much
YOOO??? THE NEW THEMES ARE SO COOL??!
frrrr
Space v Time is right up my alley 😈
Wanna give my Time-Warping Sun Deity some time to shine!!! 😆
My vote is for creation vs destruction but there's so many great ones
Comedy/Tragedy, where did you go, my love? 🥺 🥺 🥺
Kind hoping Time v Space DOESN'T win since we just had a team stardust. But everything else seems really fun!

Personally I'm rooting Unicorn v Dragons because I Need to be on team dragon, but City lights v forest nights and lovestruck v heartbreak are also so cool.

I cannot wait for July to come fast enough!!!
So excited for the next fight! Arctic vs Tropic, my beloved 🤲🏽✨️ (but Fossils and Crystals would be amazing too omg-
Yeah im honesty surprised that it didnt show up on here! Especially because so many people were talking about it!
CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST NIGHTSSSSS!!!!!!!!

and maybe I'm being kind of a downer but "unicorns vs dragons" seems really boring compared to the other themes, and as someone who doesn't really have any strong feelings on either I feel like it just doesn't work that well as a theme? there are plenty of more general "cute vs cool" themes on the list that I think are better in that regard.

anyway once again CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST NIGHTS FOR THE WINNNN
Manifesting Time vs Space
The main reason why I'm commenting is just to show the tiniest bit of support in hopes it'll come back sometime. I'm glad I'm not alone; I see a few people mourning. I wonder if it was removed because it was pretty low in votes (and just has outspoken supporters), or if the higher ups just weren't feeling it. Order versus Chaos was super popular (it even technically won one year, and it was Top 3 at least twice), and that one was removed, so who knows.

But I'm rooting for you Tragicomedy! You literally can't win this year, but someday, perhaps!
lovestruck v. heartbreak is the best theme ive ever heard alongside heart v. soul, which i believe i also voted highly last year. crossing my fingers for either theme sets to come to fruition. excited for artfight, as always!
I need unicorns vs dragons
Think I like City Lights vs Forest Nights most this year, sad to see Heroes vs Villains and Rain vs Shine get axed from the list D:
Lovestruck v. Heartbreak because I have an OC Itzal as a Yandere character. City Lights v. Forest Nights also sounds lovely.
gaahh the choice selections this year r soo gooodd! i've been repping for arctic vs tropic since last year, but lovestruck vs heartbreak sound rlly good too :p
sad to see that tragedy vs comedy got axed though :( maybe next year we can have our theatre fight lol
AHH CITY LIGHTS VS FOREST NIGHTS SOUNDS AMAZING
Destruction Vs Creation sounds so cool! I also really love Unicorns Vs Dragons that was a close second :3
(Hearing Destruction Vs Creation just gave me so much inspiration :D)
Excited for this years art fight thank you to all the people who help make this event happen!
YIPPEEE!! IM SO EXCITED FOR ART FIGHT TO RETURN :DDDD
Sorry, phrasing was a lil rude. Just that all of my favorite theme ideas seemed to have been scrapped or changed and it just upset me. I was wondering why? Why are they gone?
Unicorns vs dragons is such a great theme, specially with people entitled to having dnd campaigns and the entire MLP fanbase. Its a worthy fight lmao

Time vs space is also a fun choice because it basically means past and future. You can cover so much with it, and the alieeens, aliens vs dinosaurs lmaoo.
I'M SO EXCITED ^.^
City lights vs forest nights oughhh save me I LOVE IT
Lots of fun theme ideas! I wonder which one will win this year. City lights vs forest nights might be my favorite, but I really like a lot of them!
When will the badges for AF team 2024 and ArtFright from October come out :0?
Looking forwards for the upcoming teams fr fr (I miss the option hero vs villains I miss it a lot)
🩷🩷
These are some great choices woah-
Super excited for AF this year!
excited for next artfight!! many good themes!!
I remember seeing Comedy Vs Tragedy somewhere, I think that should be added to the list of considerations as well cause that would be such a cute theme!!
Yippee 💜
WOOHOO! Arctic vs Tropic sounds really fun!
Can't wait for art fight this year! Hope it's alot of fun 🤩!
Excited for 2025!!!!!
I cannot begin to express my utmost disappointment with this announcement.

I understand there has been complications in the management. I understand the owner has been removed due to the alleged laundering. I understand that personal lives are more important than media.
But I dont understand how long we had to wait for this poll (especially when there are four less themes than normal to vote for). I dont understand why it took four months for us to be informed that a budget update is still yet to come.
We are frustrated due to lack of transparency and this seems to be the new theme....

Beyond this, the influx of tracing, art theft, rule violations, children, (not to mention what's AI going to look like next year) etc. on this site has been notable the last two years.
What's your plan to enforce the rules? Whats your plan against AI? Are we seriously only doing the honor system?

Who asked for the mass download of every year we've ever been on Art Fight? We all save each image as they come in. Why would I ever want to redownload every drawing Ive ever received every year??
Waste of time and money. Which suggestions are you prioritizing and why?? We should get to vote or something.

Finally... the themes...
I am beyond upset to see so many new themes with so little thought. Have you not learned your lesson with Seafoam?
Glitter V Gloom is a direct rhyme connection to Wither V Bloom. What an insult to the community that we lost one of our 10 theme slots to a repeat theme.
I am upset to see some balanced themes be altered or removed in placement of these seemingly random choices.

Guess I need to start preparing for team my little pony (nothing wrong with team unicorn, just upset it was changed from Knights).

This is looking to be my last year.... What a shame....
Y I P P E E I'm so excited! Time to finish up those OC refs XD
WAAA SO EXCITED!!!
ART FIGHT 2025 LET’S GOOOO
the themes aren’t suggested by the owner or admins, they’re suggested by the user base.
I'm so excited for art fight this year I plan on giving more attacks this year because so many people attacked me when it was ending
WOOOO I CANT WAIT FOR THIS!
2025 let's go !!
Yippee glimmerandgloom
Tropic andaArctic
That doesnt change my point at all?

Many of these themes have been altered, removed, or recreated. Glimmer V Gloom is a direct connection to Wither V Bloom which was three years ago.
Many themes have been suggested like Order V Chaos or Comedy V Tragedy or Heros V Villains. Just because they are suggested, does not mean they should be on the ballot. There are only ten slots. I dont care who suggested them ^^;; The mod team should have chosen better (especially if youve seen previous theme polls, you would know).
Time vs Space is my top pick, but Glimmer V Gloom made me chuckle as an FR player
SO EXCITED FOR THIS COMING ART FIGHT!!
Is Glimmer V Gloom not just Bloom V Wither?
listen man it’s artfight. Those low effort themes in there will be knocked out in the voting, it’s how it works. It’s really not that deep dude, and I’ve been on this site for five years lol. It seems like you’re getting overly aggressive over something that really doesn’t matter in the end.
i evisioned it as more like, prep vs goth.
lots of love to everyone working hard on the site and artfight in general!
I love how you guys pat yourself on the back for managing to add 2 very basic features, that were supposed to be here since at least 2020
Not to mention the tag feature has been labelled as "new" and "in testing" since at least my first art fight in 2021
I am genuinely starting to think this is just incompetence
I appreciate you replying. However, I too may have an opinion on the newest announcement (the theme poll was a very small part of my complaint after all ^^;;).
Im glad you are content and hope you'll continue to participate as long as you enjoy it. Art Fight has a played a huge role in my life for seven years (as of course many can relate), but I am not so happy with the new decisions, so I wanted to express it.
I dont feel as though I am out of place to have feelings towards decisions that are being made on a platform I like.

Nevertheless, I wish you well! Enjoy your art fights to come
Last year the badges came a little before AF started so probably around then again
YES YES YESS thank you so much for the updates!! I've been in the ArtFight mood lately so I am so glad to finally hear some news!

I've seen a few other people express their grievances about the theme poll this year, I honestly feel inclined to agree ^^; I've noticed that for the past two years at least, themes like Destruction vs Creation and Glimmer versus Gloom operate on the same principle as Wither versus Bloom... they are repeat themes, which can feel a bit tiring. I am excited for this upcoming fight nonetheless though, I voted for Lovestruck versus Heartbreak because while it may carry the same meaning as Wither versus Bloom, I am intrigued by the potential aesthetic direction, could also be influenced by the fact it was Valentine's Day only a few days ago haha. My second vote went to Time versus Space, I really hope that one comes out on top because I've been voting for it for years now and I know a few other people who voted for it

Anyway yeah. Thank you so much to the ArtFight team and everyone else on this site :D also ArtFight team please keep the updates coming. I understand issues with management and whatnot can crop up, but compared to last year, when we received frequent updates, and were promised more frequent updates in upcoming years... it kinda sucks to be left in the dark so much
Woo!! Im so excited for this ngl
Unicorns vs Dragons and Time vs Space are my top picks
Red is what I'll probably be choosing

Unicorns Vs Dragons
Destruction Vs Creation
Fossils Vs Crystals
Time Vs Space
Glimmer Vs Gloom
Flora Vs Fauna
Heart Vs Soul
Arctic Vs Tropic
Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak
City Lights Vs Forests Nights
now imagine being somebody who has donated a few hundred to this site. It’s strange feeling like we aren’t allowed to complain about it.
Oh right! The "what I'd likely choose" game!

Unicorns Vs Dragons
Destruction Vs Creation - Depends on friends.
Fossils Vs Crystals
Time Vs Space
Glimmer Vs Gloom
Flora Vs Fauna - Depends on friends.
Heart Vs Soul
Arctic Vs Tropic
Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak
City Lights Vs Forests Nights
preferential voting on art fight lets gooooo
AAAAA I can't wait for this artfight!!1! (let's go city lights vs forest nights or arctic vs tropic‼️‼️)
What an insulting update

"Sorry we don't have any kind of budget update, but please trust us with your money anywayssss~"

Not to mention bragging about adding features that are either unnecessary, clunky, have been on this site for years, or all 3.

Truly a disappointment for the new team.
This has become more and more like a grift. Also the almost hostile take over last year just for a "whoopsi nevermind" is insulting to say the least.
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak is a theme not really inclusive of aromantics... Don't want to choose between the two.
And like another user in the comments already said, as much as Glimmer vs Gloom sounds cool, it's a bit too close to Bloom vs Wither. Although I'm sure if this theme won, the team would have found an interesting way to differentiate these two.
Second year in a row of putting Destruction vs Creation and Time vs Space in the Top 2.
My only complaint is that they changed knights vs dragons to unicorns vs dragons 😔 (knight enjoyer) Tbf though we don't wanna have another Stardust vs Seafoam incident where half the site is on Stardust (Dragons) lmao
I can appreciate the responsibilities of everyday life taking precedence over volunteer work, but as someone who was planning on being a longterm contributor since the ownership shift, this really doesn’t inspire confidence. We were promised transparency then left in the dark for 6 months, and while I understand firsthand how difficult organizing a budget for a large-scale event is, what I can’t understand is how that information hasn’t been made available in that considerable amount of time. Yes, the Art Fight userbase is past one million now, but that responsibility should’ve been taken into account when the new (which is now largely ex) leadership stepped up. I am grateful for the work that has been done and I’m sure it was no easy task, but I really can’t help but feel like this frustration could have been avoided if staff had upheld the transparency they promised from the start.
Guys can we just...not lean toward the heartbreak vs lovestruck teams? Did no one think how insensitive the naming on that was?

Do you really wanna go around telling people you're on a team that's connected to legit awful human emotion that has caused so much depression for people-

Plus it can make romantic repulsed people very uncomfortable.

All around I hope that doesn't get picked cause in reality it's just really dark, especially if someone is suffering from a heartbreak from a death or breakup. It's a serious thing to just casually bring into a funny art game.
Heart vs Soul is so intriguing for me. What could that mean? Does it only touch color palette, like Soul means more vibrant colors like blue, green etc, and Heart subdued reds and pinks? Or could Soul mean ghostly and ethereal stuff, and Heart blood and gore? Or is it more subtle, like Soul - focusing on your inside depth, while Heart is reaching out to others with empathy? I would loove to see that.
Excited to see the unicorns vs dragons option! (plus all the other options are cool too) You know which team I'll be joining if that's the winning theme cuz heh I love drawing dragons
sorry the reply function isn't working so this will have to do

"we'll tell you later" after 7 months of radio silence isn't good enough. There are people who have donated thousands to this website over the years to keep it running, and after the community has banded together to help the website not only reach the first level of basic funding but smashed it out of the park; right after the huge breach of trust of funding mismanagement by the old owner - the fact they've said nothing for 7 months only to say "here's the themes for next year we'll tell you what's happening with the budget later ok ttyl bye" is NOT cool.
I don't really care what the themes are. Sure some seem like repeats, but in the end every year ive been in had a unique theme choosen in the end and as long as the aesthetics make up for it its fine. It's not that big of a deal honestly.
I can agree a bt on the site thing, I am not particularly bothered by t but I also didn't donate so my opinion shouldn't be held so high in that regard. I also don't know how scuffed of a code the site is actually to work with and yall are volunteers so who am I to judge.
I really wish arctic vs tropic or fossils vs crystals get picked...
Ugh, lovestruck vs heartbreake (or something like this, I don't remember nah) themes are so majestic 😻
I really like the city lights vs forest nights that sounds so romantic
I'm sorry but calling the ownership of a website a "volunteer" role feels a little...dismissive to the monetary supporters. I understand most of the money you guys are making are going towards website improvements and not your own pockets, and that it's not paying the bills yet for the owner(s) to take it on as a full time job. HOWEVER you are still making that money. A business owner who runs a business and only makes enough money to keep the business afloat still calls their business a job. They're still getting paid to do work. And whoever owns this website is too. 150k is. Alot. Of money. To be treating ownership as volunteer work. Unpaid is more apt, but you still received the money to keep the business going.
Whatever the theme is... i can't wait to participate in the next artfight
Guys arctic Vs tropic will win this time Iswear

(On a side note, I really hope 'upcoming' budget post doesn't mean another 7 months away...)
:teamseafoam: <- Please fix this! :')

Also nice team choices there, I am hoping for crystals vs fossils.^^
Hope Heart vs Soul wins!

I want them to win because of my nostalgic days playing pokemon soul silver, which said game is the opposite of heart gold. This’ll be a call back to that for me and would be the most special theme to me if it ever-so happened to win
Thanks for the newspost! But you guys definitely need to work on better communication and more transparency, which were one of the cornerstone promises you had made back during the big ownership change.

So much time without any word, just to finally roll out the theme poll (late) and tell us you'll "share the details of budget at a later date" feels really avoidant. I realize there might be various difficulties surrounding budget behind the scenes which I sympathize with - taxes, administrative issues, whatnot - but those are all things you can and should tell us about, even without going in-depth about it (ofc some details shouldn't be shared publicly, I get that). Even if it has to be a discord-only update if you want to avoid clogging the website's official news board, but nonetheless, information must be shared.

And as rightly said in their own comment: calling "volonteer work" the ownership of such a big site, that gets donated so much money, feels rather misguided and worrying. Quoting them, "Unpaid is more apt, but you still received the money to keep the business going".
Is there a public Trello/Jira board for feature requests ? I need video embedding in the attack description or at least support for higher file size gifs (3D animated art gifs under 10mb is a fucking nightmare) even if it's locked behind a pair tier.

Features should be about making the process of partaking in Artfight easier...
YES FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!
High key praying for city lights and forest nights downfall. I understand the appeal I just feel it’s the most boring and obvious theme choice and will lead to a complete forest nights team sweep
City lights vs forest nights sounds like a cool theme
fingers crossed for time vs space or destruction vs creation!!
it's finally here! yay
Really hope for destruction vs creation! it sounds like a very cool theme!
Time vs Space is just PL:A, I love it
I don't know why but i really want lovestruck vs heartbreak !!
My first time voting for the artfight teams im literally so excited guys omg. Hoping for Flora vs Fauna!!!
What I'd probably choose (themes aren't ordered in any way )

Unicorns Vs Dragons
Destruction Vs Creation
Fossils Vs Crystals
Time Vs Space
Glimmer Vs Gloom
Flora Vs Fauna
Heart Vs Soul
Arctic Vs Tropic
Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak
City Lights Vs Forests Nights
im so sorry for what Im about to say, and i really do mean that, but as someone who has seen multiple years of ArtFight and all the trials and tribulations between, i can smell the YouTube cancellation video coming: "ArtFight: The Yandere Sim of the Art Community".

You told us youd be transparent with budgeting, updates, leadership, etc, and that essentially has not happened. All contributors have to show for it is a "Thank you for donating!" message and nothing else. This site is buggy, hard to navigate, and severely behind it's time. You would think with $150,000 you would at least be able to recode the site to be easier for users and mods alike.

On top of that, announcing two changes that should have been options years ago is not the amazing announcement you think it is. "With $150,000, we included the option to delete your account!" I do not think most people on the team realize how insulting that is to the loyal community that's chosen to keep this site afloat since 2016. It gives the same vibes and Yandere Sim taking 10 years to implement the Save Game feature despite receiving more than enough funding to finish the game already. Please, I really mean it, fix the site before doing merch, more funding goals, etc. There are MANY simple and basic issues you could fix to make this site a little more bearable to use, like increased user capacity, increased file upload size (because art files are HUGE sometimes), fixing non-working emotes, a layout change even? We might actually trust you then!

Also, calling Rainy's job "volunteer" is insane. They are the owner now, which means they are NOT a volunteer, theyre making money, just not for themselves. Its almost disrespectful to call the OWNER a volunteer, unless thats how Rainy themselves sees it, which would still be incorrect, but at least not disrespectful.
All in all, this announcement (and most ive seen over the years unfortunately) seems so dismissive of the userbase and your contributors. It feels like you dont even want to keep the event running, and if that is the case, hand it over to someone who does.

Again, I am sorry, but it feels you guys need a wakeup call.
I've seen a few kinda harsh comments and wanted to say my part:
I'm glad artfight exists and it would not, if there weren't so many people in the artfight team working hard to give us this yearly fun💖
While yes there are things to improve - I think it already works quite well and is a yearly highlight for me.
I'm again hyped for this years artfight and hope it will be fun as every year! :D
Really hope for Fossils Vs Crystals! Definitely my fav💛
Tysm for making this something to do every year I can't wait for this year's theme I hope it's unicorn vs dragons. And I have to start drawing all my references so I can be ready when it start ❤️
Okay, so... whatever team it's going to be, pls I hope it's not Lovestruck vs Heartbreak. That one wasn't thought through at all.

Just imagine what the banners would look like: On one there would be sad, heartbroken characters and on the other characters randomly in love with each other! Both options totally disregard the actual relationship status and possibly even the (a)sexuality of these characters. On top of that it might even go straight against the OCs owners' permissions. So, if I had pledged enough money to have my character featured on a banner this year... oh god I would dread Lovestruck vs Heartbreak getting voted.


That said... I also think a lot of the cooler themes are missing this year on the list. Chaos vs Order, Heroes vs Villains, Trinkets vs Treasure, Clouds vs Caverns, Rain vs Shine. They were all more diverse themes than... what we're left with now. I get the feeling the person who made the poll really opted for one or two specific aesthetics and only left the themes representing those in.


Voted for City Lights vs Forest Nights on top, btw. If it's going to be one of the "greenery vs smth else"-themes, then I want it to be that one.
My choices for each would be
Unicorns Vs Dragons
Destruction vs Creation
Fossils Vs Crystals
Time Vs Space
Glimmer Vs Gloom
Flora Vs Fauna
Heart Vs Soul
Arctic Vs Tropic
Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak
City Lights Vs Forests Nights
I feel scammed. I paid $150 and don't get my donation rewards or a reply from the admins. (waiting for more than 2 months at this point)
I'm already excited for next artfight :D I picked city lights vs forest nights, but I don't care what teams will be, all sounds amazing!
I can't remember the teams I picked in order, soo they're random lmao

City Lights Vs Forest Nights
Unicorn vs Dragons
Fossils vs Crystals
Arctic vs Tropic
Heart vs Soul
Destruction vs Creation
Time vs Space
Glimmer vs Gloom
Flora vs Fauna
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak
I think you offered up productive critique imo. I've seen indie sites with better UX that are funded for way less. At this point Artfight should overhaul its site instead of trying to salvage the ancient technology it's built on.

Frontend (website) and backend (database) are barely coupled, so it's possible to do a new website while using the same backend/data. Maybe we could even have a WIP beta site that's opt in + the old original site, if the programmers are too overwhelmed to build a new site in time for the next event.

(Speaking of, did the dev recruitment even go anywhere? I've seen nothing about it or any changelogs... I hesitantly donated a couple dollars this year but I don't think I'll be doing it again)
unicorns vs dragons is SO COOL i want that as the next theme so badly
Honestly I'm starting to lose faith in the owners... or apparently just one owner again. The whole point of the ownership transfer was to have better communication and transparency, yet nearly every update has been delayed with radio silence in the meantime. Even ONE POLL couldn't be delivered on time, that tells me things have to be EXTREMELY disorganized behind the scenes. Delays were understandable when the ownership transfer was still going on, but what's the excuse now??
Fossil vs Crystal sounds the most epic to me! Not hoping for Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak, though. I mean- just imagine the banner! One team with characters in love, the other side with sad, crying, lonely characters. I don't quite see the appeal.
I'll say this once but if Time Vs Space was picked, it might bring out some object head OCs, because oh boy do I love them:⟩
I voted for arctic vs tropic! When I read it Thef irst Time i thought it was artist vs topic 💀 (but that would also Be pretty cool lmo :D)
So after threatening to walk out and take all of the mod team with them if ownership isn't transfered, now they step down after not even a year? I get that they have IRL obligations but they would have known that running what is basically a company, would take a lot of effort.
So now they took a bunch of donations and promised that they are more transparent with the money. Once.
I don't know this feels like a huge scam. And the updates are a nothing burger. Moderation tools? What moderation? Reports remain unchecked, theft and rulebreaks are running wild. Nothing happened the last two years. Just a bunch of donation money that vanished into the ether.
For all the funding I still think we should at least have TWO art fight events per year.
One during summer and one during winter. Or at least make a small version of the event available throughout the whole year.
Like mini exchanges and stuff, that allows you to actively use this page in a way that makes supporting worth it.
Cuz some of the users here pay to have a fancy page and what good is this if it's only ever truly used for one month.

Looking at Toyhouse for example (a page run by one person only afaik), I paid 12 bucks for A WHOLE YEAR worth of being able to code my page.
Paying 25 for ONE MONTH? That feels like a lot. I worked in IT (webdesign specifically) and know websites are expensive.
But this is why I brought up Toyhouse and the fact that there is a great lack of things to do for that kind of money to be justified imo.

A lot of other critique I see is very valid and I agree with them.
Points such as the lack of transperancy and the danger of having this project being called the next yandere simulator.
I would not wish for this to happen to a project that usually sparks creativity and a good spirit in gifting and exchanging art.
(The few people who turned this into a begging and whining competition cannot and should not be blamed on Art Fight. This is an issue the individuals have, not the website. I personally do not mind drawing gifts for practise and FUN while not getting something in return. I genuinely do not care cuz it's MY choice whether I want to do that or not. I digress, though.)

Yeah, I may sound sour but I don't mean to.
I love this project and enjoy it a lot.
And I do want to trust the owner(s) of this site to be doing the best work possible to maintain this site and event.

Either way, I wish lots of luck to this project and the owner(s).
I want to see this project succeed and bring all of us artists of various trades together and have fun.
Goodluck Rainy with sole ownership!! Artic vs tropic is my fave, I hope it wins! Not a big fan of some of the repeat themes (like the space themes, gloom? We had that exact team name already lol) but SHIT destruction vs creation sounds sick!! I'm so excited ‼️

I think everyone had their doubts about the late manner of the news post, but I feel pretty good about it all now
I've long felt that the users were once again being scammed out of their donation money, so my only hope for 2025 is that the mods can keep the site running for another round. My trust in the current leadership is still very low, but hopefully, I'll see you all around in July! I love the concept of ArtFight with all my heart and it's a pity this whole site is held together with electric tape and broken BBCode.
I've long felt that the users were once again being scammed out of their donation money, so my only hope for 2025 is that the mods can keep the site running for another round.
My trust in the current leadership is still very low, but hopefully, I'll see you all around in July! I love the concept of ArtFight with all my heart and it's a pity this whole site is held together with electric tape and broken BBCode.
I swear if this years theme isn't Creation vs Destruction imma lose it!
I AM SO EXCITED!!! I can't wait for this Artfight!! Though I wish goodluck for Rainy with the ownership!!

I hope Arctic VS Tropic get the chance this time... alongside Fossil Vs crystal too!!
Anyone else have trouble voting on mobile? Works fine on my laptop.

Unicorns and Dragons baby
I don't quite understand why we have themes though. They don't affect the attacks. Sometimes people just paste on an overlay over each of their attacks but it doesn't really do anything. I would like the themes to actually matter at some point.
I'd have to agree with other folks here - we haven't had much of an update of where the funds the community has donated has went since it was stated the co-owners/owner will be more transparent with the money. Instead, focusing more so on staffing and features. More info on how much time and money was spent developing each new feature would be nice.

We have been getting features and various miscellaneous thing that were promised with the roadmap though. It's just the matter of when we received them. According to the contributions page, the cropping feature and the reply feature were slated for tier 2, yet we got them while the funding for tier 1 was taking place. We've also received a new feature I don't see listed on the roadmap at all, the mass defense download feature.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing, receiving surprise new features and features that were supposed to release later on. But it may suggest the team are using the money in a way contributers may not have originally asked for, or they have found ways to use the money effectively enough that they can work on additional surprise features, likewise bringing features planned for later tiers into earlier ones.

Either way, it does look as if the artfight team in general should communicate more if there have been changes in their plans, as well as where their funds are going to. The difference between what we've seen on the roadmap and when and what we've received is a bit concerning. We should not have received the cropping feature nor replies until the goal tier ArtFight had initially planned to release them in had been reached.

If anything, we should receive more communication regarding Artfight's money-spending and its roadmap, period.
are we gonna get the new search function? :(
I was hesitant to say anything, but seeing people also rightfully upset I'm gonna chip in. I have paid up to what's equivalent to half a month's rent towards the website in the past, I LOVE Artfight, I am EXTREMELY EXCITED for the themes, and can't wait for July to come around!! I will continue to participate this year and years to come - because of the community. This is a lovely place, I've met fantastic people through this event and have been inspired to create in ways I don't the rest of the year.

But in this economy, I have been wary of contributing because I don't know if it's worthwhile anymore? We were given promises of transparency and improvements that the site has needed for many years. I bought the banner tier in the past because I wanted to help the website receive these much-needed improvements and continue to grow to maintain a lovely community. So far I've put it all on hold because I'm waiting to see these promises come to fruition before I throw any more funds your way. Once all the promised site renovations have been made then I will go back to putting my full support into contributing to keep you running.

Simply put. I have lost faith. This news post feels like it's trying to stir up excitement for the themes as a way to cover up the concerns. I am certain this is not your intention, but it is still very discouraging to see! Unlike a few others, I am supportive of Rainy's seat as sole owner while Axel and Turtle focus on specific roles to help the website. It isn't easy and the three of you were put in a tough spot. I can also understand that the funds are not going into your pockets but to the website itself (yes, I will stand with the admins here in using the term volunteer, Rainy could have left us anytime but is being responsible - it is not easy heading a community of this scale, my hope is if you find someone to assist... that they're someone that the community can have faith in - I was excited to see the three of you as owners because you were communicative in the past and had shown to truly care).

Please do better. I beg you. This is coming from someone who loves this site and is waiting for a reason to come back to support you.
While I agree that it's taking longer than it comfortably should to come out with a budget/finance post, I wanted to clarify something about the donation tiers. It was stated on the donations page OR the newspost where they announced donations that the tiers were not a set-in-stone roadmap of development. In the fine text they stated that these were examples of features that would be added, and they would add those features at any point in development, regardless of whether that tier was reached or not at that point in time. They also stated that some of those features would not be implemented until much later, even if the tier was reached. They said that it all depends on what the developers end up finishing first.

So what was the point of the tiers with the features listed? Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe to highlight what they wanted to do with the site? But it doesn't really make sense to put everything into tiers if they admitted from the beginning that they would not be following said tiers. They effectively said that their developers would be working on whatever features they felt like working on at any given time.

I love AF, but I do have to say that their donations and tiers are shaky at best. I don't understand the point of the tiers when they aren't going to follow through with any of the "prizes" when we hit them. The wording felt incredibly vague so it would cover the hiccups and randomization of development without having to commit to an actual schedule/framework.

The wording and vagueness of the donation tiers and terms are what set me off from donating. I've bought all the pins and the keychain as well, but I don't fully trust my donations to go in places that I expect & want them to go yet. Especially with the hubbub with the previous owner, I expected them to be more forthright and quicker with their financial transparency this time around. I'll continue to wait and participate in AF, but I'm still feeling pretty skeptical so far. I also think it would do them good to create a solid, concrete tier system that they know they can follow so we can get what was expected rather than a grab bag every few months. If the developers are getting paid, then I don't understand why they're being treated as a volunteer position & working on whatever feature the team feels like pumping out next.
Yooo let's gooo
heart vs Soul!
heart vs soul??? like heart and soul by the monkees??
PLEASE don't let me be the only one wanting Flora vs Fauna :crying:
A big thank you to the team for keeping Artfight amazing!
Oh wow, that’s a lot of comments. But YEAH, SOME OF THESE THEMES- are what I was thinking of exactly. 😭 I wish I made a post of the theme I wanted down first before this came out. Already voted.
Honestly Heart VS Soul feel like the same thing. What would even be the banner for it? I don't hate it but it's not one of my favourites, but that's just a me problem (and the only thing that comes to my mind is Pokémon HeartGold and Soulsilver wormdeep )

Unicorn Vs Dragons looks promising but I wouldn't mind if the others won!
If Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak wins I'll be able to whip out this bad boy (i dont have a problem with it btw, the choice will simply be easy for me 💪💪 )
So in the seven months since artfight ended, you added... deleting accounts and downloading defenses? We already had the thumbnail cropper and I was under the impression that it was temporary and a more polished version would come out later. There are only five months until the fight and we have yet to see most of the FIRST tier rewards that people paid hard-earned money for. It's a slap in the face to frame the few things we got as an extravagant reward when they're really not. This is a site that needs attention year-round, not just one month out of the year where you scramble last minute to get things done.

Where is the improvement to the blocking system? 2FA? It's embarrassing that even the most basic of features can't be added when we reached the first tier MONTHS ago. I should not be able to see comments and characters from the people I have blocked and vice versa. It's a glaring safety issue for people who are getting stalked and harassed. We haven't even gotten ANY of the bookmarking features that were promised. I doubt any of the $150K tier features will be seen at all except for the most simple ones. If we can't even get a good blocking system, how would we ever get a discovery page??

The shiny new moderation tools are useless when reports hang in limbo for years at a time. Make it so moderators can handle more reports and HIRE MORE DAMN MODERATORS. Don't advertise mod tools like they're a massive gain for the community when they're not. Give your donating community some of the most simple QOL improvements before all of our faith is gone once more.

I love artfight, I've participated since 2018 and I truly want to see this site flourish and get the attention it sorely needs. However, my faith in this site has dwindled to nearly nothing. I truly hope Rainy can find a co owner who is professional and puts time and care into this site. Do not treat this as volunteer work when hundreds of thousands of dollars are involved.
Time vs space...hmmm
I wish everyone running and contributing to the site good luck for 2025s artfight! I'm sure it isn't an easy task, and I appreciate everyone's efforts to keep the site and event going strong every year, so that we can all enjoy it :bluehearthug:
i REQUIRE creation vs destruction sjahdhsdnjadhjan
i really want to do the minigames but i dont have discord
the pain of procrastination…
THIS IS SO REAL DURING AROMANTIC SPECTRUM WEEK (specifically the flag!)
C'MON ARTIC VS TROPIC CROSSING MY FINGERS
Sounds hype! I've never been part of an artfight before so I'm so down for this
Try clicking all of the themes and then dragging them, I don't remember if that's what I did but I think it was.
SECOND YEAR VOTING FOR FOSSILS VS CRYSTALS, BUT IM ALSO DOWN FOR ARTIC VS TROPIC!!! ✨ Wishing everyone a good luck this upcoming Artfight!!
As an aroace person myself- I don’t really see the problem with heartbreak / lovestruck. Love isn’t always romantic, nor is feeling heartbreak. I understand why others feel this way, because of connotations- and it’s important to listen to that side! There’s no point in talking over aroace people in this regard- and again I encourage others to listen to aro people who feel uncomfortable with the idea to understand. I’m just stating my opinion on the manner. Also banners likely wouldn’t have characters crying / happy, i imagine a broken heart on one side with wilted flowers maybe and other with intact, healthy ones. I find that argument against it to be very silly to be honest, as it can and likely will be shown in other ways. i’m also hoping this isn’t the case though.

Tldr: love can be shown in different ways, but don’t dismiss concerned aro spec people here. They’re concerned for a reason. I personally don’t mind, but this is not an excuse to ignore others. Also the banner hopefully wouldn’t have crying characters? I do agree that’d feel weird, but there’s other ways to show the concepts of it.

Also has anyone gotten their christmas / halloween rewards? I submitted both and I’m paranoid I got missed.
Can we have the rest of tier one please? The current tier one just seems like basic QOL
Oh my goodness finally a news post ;v;
Be it romantic love or not, a broken heart is still a broken heart and conveys sadness to me. So, I REALLY hope they won't make characters sad/cry on the banners if that theme is going to get voted.

The only way they could make it more appealing to me is... if they made it super edgy, e.g. LoveSTRUCK with a lightning/storm of love theme and HeartBREAK with a hammer/shattered heart theme. That actually could be kinda cool imo.
I'm hoping for either Unicorns Vs Dragons, Destruction Vs Creation, or Fossils Vs Crystals!
TIME VS SPACE FTW!! SPACE LOVERS WYA
To be specific, the wording was "The tiers are representative of paid work; we still have devs who wish to remain volunteers and are free to work on features they'd like to implement, so some features may be added or completed outside of the tiers."
Which, to me, sounds like their paid developers are paid to work on those things in order, but unpaid devs can work on whatever they want. So the money would be going into the tiers, but as no money is going to the volunteer devs, they're exempt from that.
Aw dang I was hoping there was gonna be black hole vs supernova
you're SO right there should be
EEEK ENA FAN also ur so real for that
I've been eager for an update!!
Top theme picks were Unicorns vs Dragons and City Nights vs Forest Nights!

I'm excited about this year's ArtFight. I want to try to do two group pictures this year. (and I've only daydreamed about these, not sketched anything lol) If I can get them done I'll just revenge attack lol
Hoping to have two or three new reffs out too! One is all inked and another all sketched out. Water Dragon boy and a sea pony merman!

I might donate in March again because I hope this site continues. I love browsing all the OCs and bookmarking the cool ones. I've found new artists to follow. It's worth fighting for IMO
SUGGESTION: Please add BlueSky to the links. Like, three of the sites listed in links are dead to me. XD Maybe add Cara and SheezyArt too? But deff BlueSky PLZ THX

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, EVERYONE!!💙💙💙💙
As an aromantic person, I really don't understand why some people are complaining about Lovestruck vs Heartbreak 😭 if that theme wins doesn't mean your ocs are automatically not-aromantic or something, it's like if I were mad because the Unicorns vs Dragons theme when I only have humanoid characters
I'm so excited to finally be involved with art fight this year! I can't wait
As someone who solely has humanoid OCs I would be mad, indeed. I don't want Unicorn vs Dragon to win, because I don't resonate with either of them.
Yeah, maybe not everyone with only humanoid characters feels that way. But when drawing attacks the artist can choose to only draw what resonates with them. When choosing a theme the participants represent for a whole month of Artfight I'd prefer to have choices that don't have an obvious "Oh I prefer to draw this so I'm on that team"-vibe. Vampires vs Werewolves already was kinda splitting the artists very obviously and I'm no big fan of that.
ALL THE THEMES THIS YEAR LOOK AWESOME!!!! IT WAS SO HARD RANKING THEM- MY TOP PICK IS TIME VS SPACE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm super excited for ArtFight this year!! I can't wait to draw the characters I've bookmarked! All the potential themes look really good, my top picks were City Lights v. Forest Nights and Fossils v. Crystals!
exciting things! also just want to say that i commend you guys for being so open about the leadership changes! i imagine it can't be easy to run this whole program, especially when real life gets in the way so hats off to you guys for attempting to, and for recognizing when it's too difficult. to rainy, i hope being the sole site runner - even if currently only temporary - allows for some time to rest as well. wishing you all the best, old friend [:
looking forward to artfight this year! crazy to think that it's coming up on the 10th year, that's a whole decade...! here's hoping there's many, many more! :D
im so excited for artfight 2025!!!
heres what teams I would choose [the one I would choose are marked in comic sans]

heart vs soul
lovestruck vs heartbreak [depends]
city lights vs forest nights
flora vs fauna
unicorns vs dragons
fossils vs crystals [depends]
time vs space
destruction vs creation
glimmer vs gloom
arctic vs tropic
All of the themes sound really good! Also, being able to mass download defenses is really helpful! I do have one suggestion about it, though I do understand if it would be too hard to implement: the ability to mass download defenses by year. Like, we're able to sort received art by year, and then download them that way. This would be especially helpful for future years, that way we're not downloading the same pieces of art every year. :)
HELL YEAH
here's a better metaphor imo - imagine growing up in a world where, upon reaching a certain age, people are expected to be interested in unicorns. at some point, most people get a unicorn. every story you hear in your childhood ends in the protagonist getting their own unicorn. there's an entire holiday dedicated to doing something special for your unicorn. people without a unicorn are viewed in media as losers or otherwise undesirable. asking someone about their unicorn is considered acceptable small talk because certainly you must have one by now? oh, you poor thing, you don't have a unicorn yet? you'll find one eventually, don't worry!

and maybe someone who does not have a unicorn because they don't want one says something about this theme and the response is "well...nobody said it had to be a unicorn. there are many different kinds of animals! it's not that deep!" (even though you know the unicorn is the one society puts on a pedestal - the only time they bring up the other animals is when they want the people who don't want a unicorn to shut up.)

all that is to say, hi. i'm aromantic and do feel alienated by the lovestruck vs. heartbreak theme. of course i understand not all aros feel the same way about that, but i wish you would at least try to see things from my perspective. some of us are romance repulsed and/or getting tired of the constant expectation to conform to the standards of a society that puts romantic love on a pedestal above everything else.

also, to the people who aren't aro but felt the need to bring up that there are multiple kinds of love - be very honest with yourself. when you read the theme, did you think of romance? do you view these terms with an almost exclusively romantic connotation?

someone in the discord actually suggested a better idea: since a lot of people were already considering drawing art with these themes, something like fluff vs. angst would have been a better way to get the same idea across without the romantic connotation potentially alienating some folks.
I voted for the same two themes.😁 I am such a Fantasy nut. lol! I was very disappointed that they took off Comedy vs Tragedy though. I wanted that theme this year so bad. There are still some really cool ones on here though.
I voted for Lovestruck v. Hearbrake as I have a Yandere character Itzal
Even as a romantic person I think Lovestruck/Heartbreak is cheesy and kitschy. On top of that it would totally split the community in half. In one team the people who like to draw romance, in the other people who don't. I can smell a lot of friendly fire from that one. (Not that it is a bad thing, but personally I like to make some points for my team. xDDD)
yeah! I also love Fantasy to no end.

Yeah Comedy vs Tragedy would be a good theme one year TBH Its a classic. I'm not sure what one I would pic. I hope they bring it back another year! Even some that didn't make the list from last year

Also, What one I would pick on each theme:
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak
Fossils vs Crystals (random pick)
Glimmer vs Gloom
Arctic vs Tropic
Time vs Space
City Lights vs Forest Nights
Heart vs Soul (random pick)
Flora vs Fauna
Destruction vs Creation
Unicorns vs. Dragons
The amount of people that don´t get that the team names, have nothing to do with what you draw in the end, is mind boggling to me...you are all aware that it is basically just a name? it could literally named be team A and team B.....you get offended over stuff where nothing is to be offended about. i did not vibe with werewolf vs. vampire, because i don´t really care about either. BUT i choose team vampire, because i needed to pick a team, so i could draw for people...it never mattered wich team i was on...
Here's are my teams depends on which one we get

Lovestruck
Crystals
Glimmer
Arctic
Space
Forest Nights
Heart
Flora
Creation
Unicorns
Do not wait this long in future to update your userbase. It's irresponsible to accept 150k dollars and not even give a peep on your website about any progress, even if it is all behind the scenes, for over half a year. Even something like a little "thank you" update, literally just two sentences to let us know it's still active, such as when you reached Tier 2 would've been all right, something at least. Complete silence for this stretch of time is ridiculous.

Broadly agreeing with the other comments I'm seeing raising these criticisms. I also enjoy AF and want it to thrive, but that requires us being able to trust that its runners know what they're doing and being open about it. We haven't had that.
Yo the themes are pretty cool, i aint gonna spoil which ones ima be, but I did do time vs space as my top pick, i love it when the themes are something more abstract tho, pretty cool.
Anything but flora vs fauna, in 2023 every furry/animal artist went with werewolf and I get it but it was pretty unfair for the people on vampire team
I, an aromatic person, sure do love it when romantic topics are thrown in where they really don't need to be and do not at all feel alienated by this.

This is sarcasm. I genuinely hate lovestruck v heartbreak as a theme.
hell yeahh cant wait for next fight game again in july!!! (I miss artfight so muchhh) <333

Lovestruck vs Heartbroken sound cool and funny at the same time
I'm very excited!! I cant wait until July!
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak NEEDS to happen!!!!! Fossils vs Crystals and Destruction vs Creation would be neat too BUT LOVESTRUCK VS HEARTBREAK IS PERFECTION!!!!! (Time vs Space is too similar to Stardust vs Seafoam and Night vs Day imo)
cant wait!! i hope space v time wins 🧡
vote lovestruck vs heartbreak or heart vs soul!! such cute themes!!!
they need to implement a feature where u can like comments bc urs was spot on lol
A lot of aromantic people seem to not like Lovestruck vs Heartbreak? As a hopeless romantic I don't relate BUT you don't have interpret it as sappy romantic love, you can interpret it as intimate feelings or if you're aroace you can interpret it as platonic love like what you'd have for your best friend. Heartbreak could be that feeling when you and a friend grow apart. Heartbreak doesn't have to be your heart getting broke either, you could be the heartbreaker!!! Release your inner super villain!! Break hearts and tell them you don't want their crummy box of chocolates!!! >:D
FR I don't get it why people are taking it that seriously??? ☹️ /gen
Sorry, I'm just a little confused. Are the themes supposed be taken literally? So many people seem to be upset so I'm just genuinely wanting to understand because I thought they were just like... pick which of the mascots you want to represent your team and everything else was just drawing people's OCs in an art battle. (obviously within the parameters that the creator dictates) None of the rules indicate that they have to be taken literally so I'm just trying to understand where the upset is coming from.
No they are not supposed to be taken literally. What's happening right now is like how people will argue over what color bowl they want, you still get the same ice cream and it tastes just as good but you still want the blue bowl.
YOU SHOULD VOTE CREATION AND DESTRUCTION!! Idk why nobody is commenting on this theme :(
Btw I think that’s ridiculous as hell that you get upset over LOVESTRUCK AND HEARTBREAK… It doesn’t have to represent YOU. It’s just a theme. You can literally just make a heart/love themed character while being Aromantic or whatever. Please stop being so sensitive about harmless things.
FOSSSILS V CRYSTALS!!!!!!! GLIMMER V GLOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNICORNS V DRAGONS!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,


(adding my comment as an aro person w the whole lovestruck v heartbreak theme: ,,,, shivers,,,, now for me it doesn't give me the total icks (i just dont prefer it as a theme tbh) but I can see why a lot of people would feel alienated by it, even if it was taken in a non-romantic way!!!)
Time vs Space sounds like a great theme 🖤
They are all cool though!
Very excited for the next theme, whatever it will be!
Same 🖤 which one do you prefer? :0
Btw if you have Tumblr you can vote for your favorite theme HERE.
Just for fun of course. It won't influence the actual voting.

Just wanted to drop this here.
you still get the same ice cream and it tastes just as good but you still want the blue bowl." - This is such an accurate analogy to the phenomenon going on in the comments section
Hmm… I voted Arctic vs Tropic through Tumblr. But Unicorns vs Dragons and Time vs Space may sound interesting. Because, real reason I voted because I need to see some chaos between the ice-skaters and the surfers.
I hope so too!

These are the teams so far that I would choose depending on whichever theme we get.

Lovestruck vs Heartbreak
Fossils vs Crystals(not sure yet, but leaning towards Crystals)
Glimmer vs Gloom
Arctic vs Tropic
Time vs Space(not sure yet)
City Lights vs Forest Nights
Heart vs Soul(not sure yet, don’t know the difference)
Flora vs Fauna
Destruction vs Creation
Unicorns vs Dragons

Cool! Another dragon lover! I’m just dying to be on a dragon team! lol!
it’s a tough pick they’re both so cool.. I’d probably pick space though because i have so many alien characters :3
Id really like Heart vs. Soul ngl
Hope one of the (sorta?) Pokémon themed options wins! I'd prefer something more ambiguous that everyone could resonate with either of both, rather than a pair of options that even if they are not meant to be taken literally, are probably going to heavily influence the team choice (like what happened with vampires vs. werewolves). Arctic vs Tropic or Destruction vs Creation sound really cool, but I fear if something like Fauna vs Flora or Unicorn vs Dragon wins, it may have the same outcome as the 2023 theme...
Dood. Dragons are my favorite animal! I dream to have the dragon theme. lol I was happy to have sea theme last year for my love of mermen. But I need another space theme!!! I love space/stars so much, too. lol
Farewell Knights vs Dragons 🫡 I'm gonna miss that theme option from last year AAAA

Atleast.... Unicorns vs Dragons seems cool :'3 *sobbing at the loss of knights*
Fossils vs Crystals seems nice :D
This is how I would choose so far. (And also the order in which I sorted the themes, no. 1 pick on top)


City Lights vs Forest Nights (depends)
Destruction vs Creation
Time vs Space
Fossils vs Crystals (unsure... I love both T.T)
Glimmer vs Gloom (unsure... again I love both T.T)
Flora vs Fauna
Arctic vs Tropic (depends)
Unicorns vs Dragons (I have no effin idea... but probably... Dragons?)
Lovestruck vs Heartbreak
Heart vs Soul (dunno... depends on how these are meant oO)


Very unsure about a lot of these. And that's what's bugging me. Last year there were more options where I knew what I would choose! T.T
I'm not really too keen on the themes for this Art Fight. It's not as exciting as last year's in comparison, but regardless of which themes wins it certainly will be lots of fun hopefully like my first art fight was last year. I do hope that there will be more in-depth information regarding the financial situation in which our donated money was used. Anything transparent needs to be said upfront even as a simple 'thank you' to those that keep up the site via donations and/or participating goes a long way! This long of silence and having more people step down is a understandable but also concerning especially since majority of Art Fight is volunteer work. Hoping you guys can tie some loose ends so that everyone here knows exactly what's going on so that we can keep supporting and having Art Fight each year
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Same! They’re my favorite animal too!
I agree, it would be cool to join an outer space team at some point. I was Seafoam last year too. I just loved the aqua green and coral pallet so much. Plus, I loved the emblem with the oyster shell. I also love the beach.
HELPER
City lights vs Forest Nights seems super cool!! All the theme options are nice this year, I also like Heart vs Soul :D
150k is no small amount of money and its a little frustrating getting so much radio silence just for yall to come back with a late theme poll and no budget news. and two very basic QOL features and still no improved blocking, 2fa or much else from tier 1. trust is very low from last year and all these leadership changes, (very) low communication, and slow development, when we are only 5 months out from the fight mind you, is pretty concerning! it does not set a good impression for what's going on behind the scenes and it makes me wanna reconsider if i want to even participate this year. going to try to stay optimistic but im really hoping you guys can get it into gear before july ^^'
I home Unicorn vs Dragon wins, but all of them sound amazing!
Big Mac (idk I saw someone say hamburger and someone else say cheeseburger)
I voted for flora vs fauna but I kinda want city lights vs forest lights
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TIME VS SPACE ON TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
people discussing about fight themes, meanwhile me who don't care how my team will be named, and just awaiting july cuz i want to draw all these cool ocs so bad but yea communication about the site should be more clear, and more features provided to the site itself
Hi :D
I agree that the silence with our money is a little frustrating especially since theres been almost no update one site features in at least my 5 active years of artfight except everybodies least favorite icon system where it messed up our icons from yhe halfway point of the season to basically the end, but I can wait 🤷‍♀️
I think a lot of the themes are super similar to stuff we've already done and wish if we didn't branch out that we'd at least get themes that didn't seem super stacked in one direction or the other. Unicorns v Dragons is my absolute favorite on the list bc they seem like a genuine choice instead of a rehash. Excited for that one
I'm most excited to get attacking people tho~☆ can't wait for July as always, the users make this site something special!
is there any way to participate in minigames without discord? i dont have it, but im very excited for art fight!!
Heart vs soul sounds awesome!

Yall are doing a great job and i cant wait for artfight 2025! Stay drawing! ♡
How was everyone's Valentine's Day?
the poll isn't working for me rn, anyone else having this issue
Pretty good! I was single for it but that just means I got to buy myself chocolate >:D
How was yours?
Unfortunately no. You do need to have discord. However, some people will do art trades throughout the year here if you PM them.
very good, I’m a single Pringle so I just drew a load of ship art XD.
R E L A T A B L E
I looked at a bunch of ship art while eating chocolate and listening to love songs lol
Good thank you very much for asking yes I am a single pringle myself good idea on the ship art. I hope it turned out well.

SLUSHIE_SWEETHEART Glad to hear you bought yourself chocolate. Was it one of the classic Heart packs or something else?
I'm like a little parasite, when I get in your brain I'm not getting out >:) but I also bake your neurons cookies and give em ten bucks so i'm not that bad

Also welcome to artfight! Super glad to have you here!
It's was Hershey chocolate chips for baking that were on sale, they were in a cute little Valentine's day themed bag lol
It was ok, I have a partner but they were busy so we couldn't do anything, but they did drop by for a few minutes :)
Anyone have Riolu characters I can bookmark?
Try it on a computer if you're using your phone, it may just be it doesn't work as well on mobile. If you're using a computer try your phone it may work better on there.
Omg the theme options are GOOD this year, voting is hard man T-T <3<3<3
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I agree, that’s one of the reasons why Unicorns vs Dragons was my top choice as well. I mean, Vampires vs Werewolves was mythical creature based too, but they are classic horror monsters, while Unicorns and Dragons are fantasy creatures.
So hyped for artfight this year (I have a lot of refs to complete though lol).
Is there a way from the mini games in the discord how do I sign how
How do I delete comment
I'm sorry about all of the comments. I really don't want to see users I have blocked post, especially one specific user. I'm sorry about commenting so many times. I'm tired and haven't been getting very much sleep. I'm really sorry about all of that. Also, how do I sign up for minigames in the discord?
Yeah, it's just an Internet game ://
creation vs destruction for the win!! also i’m so excited for next artfight, i can finally revenge everyone that i didn’t get to last year..
I forgot how to edit posts but that person really didn't have to comment on my profile
Did you really have to spam...
Okay, here's my order of preference in the theme poll (along with my team choice) :
1. City Lights vs. Forest Nights (City Lights)
2. Flora vs. Fauna (Fauna)
3. Glimmer vs. Gloom (Glimmer)
4. Arctic vs. Tropic (Tropic)
5. Unicorns vs. Dragons (Unicorns)
6. Fossils vs. Crystals (Crystals)
7. Destruction vs. Creation (Creation)
8. Lovestruck v. Heartbreak (Lovestruck)
9. Time vs. Space (Time)
10. Heart vs. Soul (Heart)
I had no trouble with the theme poll. It worked just fine for me. You might be having trouble with either your computer or the internet connection.
YAYYY i js voted !! these themes all look so cool, it was hard to choose my favorite :') my top 3 are;
1. Arctic vs Tropic
2. Lovestruck vs Heartbreak
3. City lights vs Forest nights
thank you artfight team for your hard work behind the scenes! the update on status and various site updates trickling through are appreciated. I am always daunted by the size of this ever growing community and appreciate the effort put towards keeping the place organized + fending off (doubtless) many bot/scam waves. certainly not an easy feat!

to me, some downtime is more than understandable to give staff time to rest and handle the happenings of their own lives. thanks again & take care. until next time!
already 5 months away!? what is time anymore?!
omg i still remember vividly when they announced a 2 day extension on artfight my goodness i think tommrrow i might find myself inside of a retirement home rahhh
yeah it was never a thing and now it is one? i think not...they should be more concerned if this project will live any longer with the non transparency from the staff...but i will wait and see...the team names are no problem at all...
exactly it is fun...why do have people make anything so darn serious? ( i get the money part...i also donated and i also want that the money is used for the site and not the private pockets...)
I'm sorry
Anyone want free art? (Headshots)
Not in order for me, but my prefs!
1. City Lights vs. Forest Nights (Forest Nights)
2. Flora vs. Fauna (Fauna)
3. Glimmer vs. Gloom (Glimmer)
4. Arctic vs. Tropic (Arctic)
5. Unicorns vs. Dragons (Dragons)
6. Fossils vs. Crystals (Fossils)
7. Destruction vs. Creation (Creation)
8. Lovestruck v. Heartbreak (Heartbreak)
9. Time vs. Space (Time)
10. Heart vs. Soul (Soul)
REALLY hoping lovestruck\heartbreak wins!

Would be a perfect opportunity to put «Heartbeat, Heartbreak» lyrics from Persona 4 in my profile hehe...
gonna miss the "comedy" and "cryptids" themes, but I'll vote for last year's wish - fossils, hehe 🦴🧡 (new theme with the city and forest sounds cool too!)
Ahh yeah, Beaches would be my happy place. The sun, the warm water, sound of the waves, tropics. I have beaches near me, buts it's Lake Michigan. lol

Come to think of it, maybe people complaining about the rehashed themes should consider not everyone has been playing since the start of Art Fight and missed out on a theme they would have liked to be a part of. This will be my 3ed year. I would have LOVED to have been on Cyberpunk! lol To have a theme similar would be amazing. =3
Over all, The theme is not THAT important to me. I just want to draw some fun OCs and make people happy.
would really love if it's Artic vs tropic for this year!, this is my first look at the choices. ✨️ City lights vs forest lights seems cool too, bruh I don't know what to choose both of this two themes
Rooting for City Lights vs Forest Nights this year!
All themes look like a lot of fun to work with! Can't wait to see which one wins
Same! The only ones I kind of hope don't win are Arctic Vs Tropic, Glimmer Vs Gloom, Flora Vs Fauna, and Heart Vs Soul because it's hard to choose between the two.
i will yippee so hard if city lights vs forest nights wins AAAH <3
Nice Hershey is always a good choice.
Blackevergreen That's awesome.



Do you consider yourself a morning person or night owl?

I'd consider myself someone who could work the night job in the FNAF series. lol
omg imagine the team name

Morning Bird vs Night Owl
sweet vs sour
Hardcore night owl }:>
I can just imagine how cute the team icons would be 🥹 I would go crazy for an owl team
I can't wait to see the results! (and the cool art to go with it!)
That’s true. Man, I would have loved to have participated in the year of Steampunk vs Cyberpunk too! I would have chosen Steampunk, been a huge fan of Steampunk for a few years now. Still sad that it was the theme the year before I joined. I agree though, blessing people with art is more important to me than the winning theme as well. Still excited to see the results though.😁
Hate to be a Negative Nancy, but the amount of mask-off aphobia I've seen in response to the people critiquing the inclusion of Lovestruck vs Heartbreak is disappointing. Yes, both are concepts that can encompass a wide range of emotions, whether platonic or romantic. Yes, it sounds terribly cheesy because many people would immediately notice the romantic lens.

But I am more concerned about the (predictable) backlash that aspec people face whenever highlighting the issue of amatonormativity, including personal insults directed at the individuals and broader attacks on the aspec community's existence as part of the LGBT+ rainbow. Even though the discord server has been spared the worst of it thanks to the mod team's efforts, not everywhere on the internet is as tolerating of such opinions.

Personally I feel that adding it to the pool was a poor move for this reason. The word was predictable, and while I acknowledge that it is within the staff team's discretion to add or remove teams they consider popular, I feel that you guys really missed the mark here.

My point isn't that romance is an issue, not even that it's disingenuous to push an alternative interpretation, but like. There are many (too many!) people who are willing to jump on the topic not only to attempt to invalidate these concerns, but with the secondary aim of alienating the aspec users from the community, and I'm hoping that the team's silence won't be the nail in that grave.
VOTE HEART VS SOUL I BEGGGG I NEED THIS,,,, CHONNY JASH SWEEP,,,,,,,
Definitely a night owl, I'm pretty much nocturnal at this point
SAME i love ittt
absolutely agree. i think a lot of people need to take a good hard look at the way they treat aspec people and whether they're truly as inclusive of other lgbtq+ people as they say they are. this happens like clockwork to aro people around valentine's day - any time we bring up the way amatonormativity affects us, it's immediately shut down by people who chime in with "but there are other types of love!" sometimes they just jump straight to calling us bitter because we're not in a relationship. surprise, that's aphobia!

since people love to put words in our mouths about it, i don't think the theme is "problematic" or otherwise morally bad. however, i think people need to understand that some folks are alienated by it and at the very least respect that. someone having a personal issue with a theme doesn't mean you're a bad person if you like it or whatever. i made a comment that was kind of a joke on tumblr about how i wasn't interested in participating if that was the chosen theme, which would be a completely personal decision informed by my personal romance repulsion and how i anticipated being treated as a nonpartnering aroace person during an event where the aesthetics would almost certainly be inspired by romance and couples. this was met with a lot of people saying i was overreacting, that it's "not that deep/just a game!" if i actually were to make that decision, it would have nothing to do with you! it's none of your business!

at the end of the day, i think a lot of non-aro people take it as a personal offense when an aromantic person questions the platforming of romantic love above everything else, and that's why they get so up in arms about it and try to shut the discussion down as soon as they see it. it's why i feel the need to choose my words very carefully at times: because if i say anything that could in any way be taken personally, suddenly i'm talking to a brick wall. amatonormativity is a societal problem, not a personal problem. it's not a personal attack to bring up the multiple ways aphobia and amatonormativity affect us in our day to day life. quit shooting the messenger.

(and by the way, other aro people aren't exempt from this. i saw a lot of aros who were like "well i'm okay with romance so you're just being silly." good for you, but your experiences aren't universal. some aro people are totally chill with romantic themes, and others aren't. we're not a monolith. i can respect your experience, so i expect you to be able to respect mine.)
lol
People hate asexual people?
Agreed. I also think it's pretty ingenuous to claim it's just a theme that doesn't impact the game. Plenty of people on Art Fight draw art based on the theme, so I understand completely why some aspec people would be uncomfortable with it.
yes, quite famously on tumblr and later twitter there was a massive harassment campaign against aromantic people and asexual people that did a lot of damage to both communities and pushed many people back into the closet. it ranged from people adamantly insisting they weren't part of the lgbtq+ community to sending people death threats and worse. 2016-2018 was a pretty bad time to be aspec online.
Yeahhh I'm allo and I do like the theme idea but like, people really need to chill about aros mentioning the issues with it. Yes, sure, it can be read in other ways than romantic love, especially heartbreak (and especially if, like me, one loves being dramatic and will say they're heartbroken about dropping their ice cream and the like), but most people will think of romance first, and that's before getting into loveless aros etc. You can say "I like this theme" or even "I would interpret this differently, in a way these issues wouldn't be present" without being a jerk to a group of marginalized people.
Plus, people are being very dramatic about all these themes (whether that's "Nooo they removed that one!" or "Ewww why is THAT theme on there!"); very weird how aros are singled out. At least Lovestruck vs Heartbreak has some actual issues to talk about beyond "No but I liked that one that's not on there and I hate these ones".
Honestly in my opinion (i am not bashing on anyone elses view on what teams if someone doesnt agree with me), i am a dead ass fan for heartbreak/lovestruck purely because It sounds like a very instresting theme and i'd love to see the asserts/team-colours for it; tho i am not sure if it would be picked due to what i was reading that some people arent a big fan of it (which is fine i really do not mind at all) plus i wouldnt know which one of the two i'd pick since both sound really cool; but there are some other teams i would enjoy like flora/fauna (That would also be so cool if it thats get picked); Not sure about the others but yeah thats all i have in mind
I can’t rlly make up my mind, Im happy with anything as long as it’s not unicorns & dragons (opinion)
Blackhole VS Supernova
Unicorns and dragons sounds cool at first but then you realize the majority of people would likely join Dragons, thus having another landslide win.

I don't understand the hate towards Aro's and Ace's, especially when it's coming from their own community (the LGBTQ+ community) who of all people should understand the struggle. As far as the lovestruck vs heartbreak controversy goes, I don't understand what the Aro's did that upset everyone. They were just voicing their opinions as everyone in this comment section is doing.
Destruction Vs creation? Seems like burning spice cookie VS golden cheese cookie.. /j
I absolutely love the city light vs forest nights!!
(Edit for spelling mistake)
Me me!
i think there's a tendency to see someone point out a personal issue with something and have a knee-jerk reaction of "they're saying it's bad, therefore they're saying it's bad for me to like it" and equating it to a personal attack. at least, that's my best guess. some people are so obsessed with avoiding "problematic" things and judging their own moral worth based on what they interact with. it's pretty easy to see a connection from someone saying "hey i feel uncomfortable with this topic" to another person saying "they must be saying it's a bad thing...but i'm not a bad person, i can't like bad things, certainly it's the other person who's wrong!"

the problem with this is that some people lash out in this particular example in a way that actually is aphobic. the person liking the theme isn't a bad thing, but their reaction to someone having a personal issue with it is.

(and as for the first part, exclusionism in the lgbtq+ community is unfortunately not a new thing. once it wasn't "cool" to hate on aspec people anymore, the next targets became nonbinary and pan people, and so on and so forth.)
THIS!! You wrote my thoughts out exactly. It really sucks that the LGBTQ+ community attacks our own members :/ I was there during the thick of it when it was 'trendy' to bully aroaces. It's ok to like a theme, but people speaking for aro people and being aphobic is taking it WAY too far. This is supposed to be a fun art game, bigotry has no place here. Especially since a massive chunk of the playerbase is LGBTQ ://
Heroes vs villains :(((((
destruction vs creation is so ninjago coded

also i love the idea of unicorns vs dragons and will gladly take my 5th consecutive loss on team unicorns, if dragons indeed have a landslide win. barely even stings anymore
i really hope the teams for the 2026 10 year anniversary are ART vs FIGHT
I love a lot of the themes for this year! While I love the Unicorns and Dragons, the City Lights vs. Forrest Nights is also amazing. Also, can you imagine the theme for Heart vs Soul?

Excited to be a part of this artfight since it will be my first time! Looking forward to the main event
Yesss exactly
Thanks, completely agree
Omg yes!
rain vs shine got snubbed from the theme poll this year... i hope its back next year :')
Heart vs Soul! A perfect theme and not just because Pokémon SoulSilver and HeartGold are my favorite :3
Is there a character you'd preferred drawn?
lets go time vs space truthers
thanks so much for your hard work. artfight is the one thing i always look forward to every year. it is THE thing that keeps me going. without staff, it would not be possible. so thank you, again
ok person with a loop pfp voting for space vs time
LOLL
A 10 year anniversary? Now you've got me excited!
I rly hope Creation vs Destruction is chosen! (i'm def destruction lol)
I an totally putting arctic v tropic as my number one but I have a soft spot for Lovestruck vs heartbreak😊
Is there any update on when people will get badges for Art Fright and Arctic Fright?
I want to apologize but I don't know how to and I don't know what to say
Same! I thought of cookie run kingdom lol..
I see the staff Tumblr has responded so I'll just quote that here to illustrate exact how tone-deaf it was:
Hi, just a concern with the theme poll, seems a little... meh to have lovestruck vs heartbreak (a very amatonormative theme) as a potential theme, especially when the theme poll released during arospec awareness week
We understand the concerns this theme may have caused and it was not our intention to exclude anybody from participating in Art Fight.
Themes are meant to be open-ended, so they can mean something completely different depending on the person. While Lovestruck vs Heartbreak could be viewed romantically, it could also be viewed platonically (falling “in love” with a new series, heartbreak during a friendship, etc.).
1. It's incredibly condescending to explain to a group, which frequently reinterpret concepts with undeniable romantic connotations, to do the same thing that they're tired of having to do.
2. additionally, it's an old line, that aspecs have heard of many, many times in response to any attempts to discuss amatonormativity, and most frequently with the aim of shutting down discussion by putting those who raised the issue on the defensive.
3. I still think the response is disappointing all things considered. Given that very consistently, it is aspecs who raise the issue first, and then other users respond with 'I don't see the issue', it feels targeted to deliberately skirt the concerns with non-responses that essentially rehash the default responses.

Allyship isn't an end goal, it's an ongoing act, and I definitely think that you guys can do better than this.

(Unrelatedly, happy ASAW to the aspecs reading this, condolences for the drama.)
Guys... It's just the theme of an art game... It probably won't even win anyway and even if it does it's not the end of the world
If you don't like the theme, just rate it lower.
From a person from the aro spectrum, you can interpret the theme however you'd like, like what the tumblr staff responded with. Also it's more likely just a coincidence that this poll was released during this week, I don't think it was meant to "bring up drama" or make fun of a certain community.
This is such a nothing burger of a "drama", and it's such a stretch to call it that

Hoping for Flora vs Fauna or Destruction vs Creation this year🤞
I assume you didn't read my original post, but that was in response to discussion on Tumblr that turned significantly more hostile. Specifically, the final straw was a remark that went, verbatim, "I swear why do the aspecs act as if theyre opressed".

It's alright if you don't want to call it drama, but I'm posting for the people who will internalize and repeat such messaging. It costs absolutely nothing to be sensitive to the feelings of a marginalized community, especially when they're speaking out despite the response to the contrary.
So many good choices this year it was sooo hard to sort.. hoping for Fossils/Crystals, Lovestruck/Heartbreak, or City Lights/Forest Nights! Can't wait for this year's game to roll around :D
Oh uh... fellow Ace person here. Had to catch up on what was going on, and I didn't know this was going on until recently, oof-

Anyways, hope you lads are doing well out there. I think that the timing might have been a coincidence as well, but on the other note, I'm sorry to be hearing all of this. I've also seen and had to deal with aceph*bia personally, so I know what it's like and it's not fun. Some of the stuff said from the Tumblr situation made me ick on the inside. D:

For the theme, I'd like to see fossils vs crystals or city lights vs forest nights! Also if anyone wants to do a quick art trade I'd be happy to.
It is asking me to do a captcha before I can submit my vote but even reloading the page I cannot see a captcha... :(
So the discourse went from
"Where is all the money going?"
to
"How dare one option be romantic. I personally don't like it so it shouldn't be an option for anyone"
we are no longer talking about the theme itself. anyone who thinks we are only talking about the theme with regards to this discussion is completely missing the point at best and willfully ignorant at worst. what we are talking about is how the backlash to completely legitimate personal concerns, with absolutely zero judgment of people who enjoy it, surrounding a theme has enabled mocking, belittling, and full mask-off aphobia on multiple platforms. this is not about the theme, it's about how easily people resort to mistreatment of aspec people when we talk about the way attitudes around certain concepts are shaped by societal forces and how it can negatively impact us. first on discord, then here, then tumblr. every single time. any time we bring these issues up, people try to shut us down because they just don't like hearing it.

i sincerely hope the moderation team is taking notes because this kind of behavior towards any marginalized group should not be tolerated anywhere. i don't know why i thought this community would be more accepting, but that was clearly a mistake. do better.
I find it... let's be polite and say interesting how, apparently, aros are expected to make sure to really really cushion their words with "Oh of course if you like the theme that's fine and it's not bad to like it but I personally..." or else they'll get jumped for *checks notes* mentioning/explaining their own marginalization.
Meanwhile with every other theme, people go full on "Ugh this one SUCKS it's GARBAGE and I hate it and they removed all the GOOD themes from last year and that one doesn't even make SENSE!", and that, apparently, is perfectly fine and nobody cares.
Loving the theme is one thing. That's fine. But maybe some people should question why they're okay with "City Lights vs Forest Nights is stupid and sucks" but not with "I find Lovestruck vs Heartbroken kind of uncomfortable".
You can like the theme, and put it in first place, and even disagree about the theme being only about romantic love without attacking marginalized people.
(Since this is the internet and you gotta be careful not to have words put into your mouth: I personally like City Lights vs Forest Nights, I put that one as my second place, right after Fossils vs Crystals, but it's one of the themes I've seen the most hate for, alongside Heart vs Soul, Glimmer vs Gloom and occasionally also my beloved Fossils vs Crystals).
Saying you don't like a theme or you are sad a team has been left out is one thing.
Calling staff insensitive for including one and condescending for explaining the inclusion is another.
how did we went from
"oh yh i like this theme :3"
to
"wheres the money going"
to
"voting for lovestruck vs heartbroken is making you aceph*bic"

anyways in my opinion these are just silly themes for a silly art trading game and i dont think there should be such a big drama around it
I’ve been so excited for this year! Hoping lovestruck vs heartbreak wins as the theme!
Your aph*boia is showing. /srs
Flora/Fauna (FireRed and LeafGreen), Time/Space (Diamond and Pearl), Heart/Soul (HeartGold and SoulSilver), City Lights/Forest Nights (Black and White), Destruction/Creation (X and Y), Unicorns/Dragons (Sword and Shield?), Fossils/Crystals (Scarlet and Violet???)

Trying to cover as many Pokemon games as possible, huh?
I find it funny that you've seen most hate for City Lights vs Forest Nights. It's clearly the top contender so far if THIS (just for fun) poll on Tumblr is in any way representative.

On the same note, I think Lovestruck vs Heartbreak won't make it as this year's theme anyway. (Although I agree that I found it very weird to see it on the list. Knowing how many aroace people are part of the Artfight community I never thought we would get an option like this one. oO;)

The theme I've seen much hate for is actually Glimmer vs Gloom. People are saying it's similar to Bloom vs Wither and I don't get it. A flower isn't the same as shimmering lights and mushrooms/rot is not the same as darkness. Actually Destruction vs Creation is way closer to Bloom vs Wither. But... what do I know? xDDD
I don't really like Lovestruck Vs Heartbreak, I don't really like City Lights Vs Forest Nights either but at least I'd be able to chose
It feels like all of this has happened before
I guess City Lights vs Forest Nights has people very split because many people love it, and also many people really hate it for being too ~aesthetic~. As for Glimmer vs Gloom, yeah, there's been a lot of hate for that one, too... I get that the words are similar (Glimmer/Wither and Gloom/Bloom) but they mean very, very different things, so calling them "the same" is an... interesting take. Another one I've seen was that it's like Flight Rising, because one of the games on that site is called "Glimmer and Gloom", but it's not like FR owns the concept of those things. Same with people calling Time vs Space, or occasionally other themes, too Pokémon-adjacent, like, Pokémon does not own the idea of "Time and Space" xD Or Heart and Soul, for that matter, the games were named after the idea not other way round...

My personal favorite is Fossils vs Crystals, which isn't all that high on the Tumblr poll, but maybe being less divisive will help it along. A Lua can hope 👀
Like, not just this. It feels like every single thing has happened before, literally every single thing. It's been going on for as long as I can remember.
Try on a different device, see if that works.
uh why? just because they like some theme doesnt mean theyre aph*bic nor aceph*bic
They really need to improve the blocking thing. I should not be able to see people that I blocked or that blocked me.
Oh dear. I guess to add on to my original post, I don't think that voting for the theme Heartbreak vs Lovestruck itself is bad. It's just that there were some things said offsite that were a bit uh... and I kinda just wanted to mention how I felt.

Also, can' wait for another fun year! Don't have any super strong dislikes for the other themes, just as long as it's a bit better balanced lol.
too bad knights v dragons isn't an option, i was keeping some hope for that theme :(
oh well unicorns v dragons is close enough, i take what i can get
otherwise i love destruction v creation and flora v fauna <3
heart v soul is good too, but i personally like those other options better - maybe i'll vote for that next time if it's there!
excited for another year of art fight :3
City Lights/Forest Nights letsgooooo :3

Also I don't see how Glimmer/Gloom is "the same" as Wither/Bloom? By similar vibes and similar-sounding words I guess, but I always saw Bloom/Wither as somewhat more... I guess literal? (In that sense Creation/Destruction is more similar to Wither/Bloom but just way more broad)
im hoping its either lovestruck vs heartbreak, heart vs soul or destruction vs creation this year
Lovestuck v Heartbreak, I think sounds the neatest.
Come on guys heart vs soul :( I will literally cry if the option is gone next year
City Lights vs Forest Nights was my second choice.😁
I agree, I don’t get how Glimmer and Gloom are like Bloom and Wither either, besides the words rhyming. I don’t think Glimmer and Gloom have anything to do with plants.😆
Hoping for either Dragons vs Unicorns or Space vs Time (gives me Pokémon DPPT vibes lol)
HAFJSKAA 😭
Tater tots vs French fries
They don't
#Team Dragon!
I actually get the too "aesthetic" complaint about Forest Nights/City Lights. My first thought when looking at the themes was: "Okay, they WANT this one to win, don't they?" xD
But - what shall I say - I love the too "aesthetic" theme. xDDD

Yeah, aside from the words somehow being similar Wither/Bloom and Glimmer/Gloom are two very different things.

Ah, I see. I didn't know that. But as you said, it's not as if those franchises owned or invented the concepts of Time/Space, Glimmer/Gloom, etc. So, I don't think there would be any problems with copyright or whatsoever.

Fossils vs Crystals is my fourth place. I love the concept, but for the life of me can't decide which team I'd choose. x,D
I think saying heartbreak vs lovestruck is aphobic/arophobic just minimizes what actual exclusion and oppression is. Obviously the take that ace/aro people aren't oppressed or at the very least marginalized is not true at all and whoever said that shouldn't have said it. I'm not minimizing discrimination ace and Aros face at all. It is real, I'm hyper romantic bisexual so I can't speak on the community's issues specifically but yes aspec people do get treated badly, even in spaces meant to be queer-friendly.

That being said: Love isn't PURELY romantic and even romantic love isn't a/arophobic by itself. Anyone using people's dislikes for the themes as a way to be shit on aspec/arospec identities is no better and there's no excuse to minimizing aromantic/asexual individuals experiences facing judgment and discrimination. Unacceptable behavior. This site should be safe for everyone.

The phrase "aro/ace erasure/phobia is a big issue even within accepting spaces" and "a theme isn't offensive just because you don't personally align or feel comfortable with it" are two statements that can perfectly coexist! It's fine to dislike the theme or find it corny, it's not my favorite by a long shot. The event starts in 4-5 months guys. It's one theme out of a dozen. Not all aro/ace people think the same either it feels to generalize and say the entire asexual/aromantic community is offended by a theme idea. Not even a theme but a mere idea of it. Not all aromantic/asexual folks are repulsed by romance (and those that are are valid of course!), and if you are that's totally fine, it just shouldn't be used as an excuse to accuse AF staff of being exclusionary towards asexual/aromantic folks, especially since iirc a lot of af staff are ace?
What the hell is happening
Controversy ✨
Oooooooo you guys want to vote for Arctic vs Tropic so bad 🌺🌺🌺🌺🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴🐻‍❄️🐻‍❄️🐻‍❄️🐻‍❄️🐻‍❄️🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶/lh
I NEED UNICORNS VS DRAGONS HTTYD FANS PLEASE
HTTYD MENTION?
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Y I P P E E
Did someone say HTTYD?
YIPPEE I CAN'T WAIT!!!
As someone who is aroace I completely agree with this
I wish I could partake in the minigames, but I can't get verified on discord cut my account has too many problems (I have Mutiple accounts I don't use any more that share the same phone or email that I can't get rid of cuss I don't remember the passwords)
ive been here since 2020, never done a character. THIS IS THE YEAR IT CHANGES GET READY EVERYONE
I THINK SO!!!!!
I don't really mind which theme we get I just hope whatever team I end up on loses so I can continue my consistent lose/win/lose/win pattern /j
YIPPEEEEEE!!!!!!11!!

Looking forwards to FINALLY participating in Artfight after years of watching!

:D
*Buckles seatbelt* ready 👍

Lol valid
I wish I could draw
I'm only responding to you because I know your username.

I think you'll recognise that users going out of their way only to state their opinion that romance-repulsed aros are overreacting and trying to police the words they use (as well as deriding terms like amatonormativity, and remarking that they need to find real issues to care about) is the bog-standard form of microaggression that's used on Tumblr.
You can! I love your artwork!
rubbing my belly in wait of the chosen theme Heh anyone get me ? Gonne Be Here a while......
The themes this year are so exciting! I’m hoping a pink team will emerge..

Some people are romance repulsed, and this is completely normal. As humans we have a range of emotions we go through, and we will not always experience the same things in the same way!

This doesn’t mean that themes covering love are inherently arophobic, this based off of the world view that there can only be one type of love, that being romantic.

We may love our pets, family, friends, hobbies etc, and these types of love can be different from one another. Not all love is healthy, not all love is good or bad, this is an interesting concept to consider if you like these types of thought experiments.

I’m hoping for love struck, glimmer or flora! But my prediction is that city lights and forest nights will win.
I love your art! Infact, I’m just gonna *eats*
at the risk of dragging on a topic, i want to point out the difference between amatonormativity and arophobia because i think that's a sticking point in the conversation that's causing some confusion. while there's certainly some overlap sometimes, they're not the same thing, and it's important to understand when someone's saying a thing or action is one vs. the other.

amatonormativity is the platforming and centering of romantic love as the ideal relationship, as well as the assumption that everyone wants and benefits from a romantic relationship. arophobia is antagonism directed at aromantic people and/or discrimination against aro people.

the platforming of valentine's day as a major holiday? there's some amatonormativity there. while many people choose to celebrate it in a platonic way, it cannot be separated from its romantic origins as a christian feast day for the patron saint of romantic love - and that's not to mention the messaging surrounding it (emphasis on couples, "that special someone," etc.) and people feeling the need to distinguish separate platonic versions of the holiday ("galentine's day," "palentine's day," etc.) the act of choosing to celebrate valentine's day? not inherently amatonormative, that's a personal decision. if you ask someone what they're doing for valentine's day and they say "i don't celebrate it, i'm aromantic and choose not to celebrate it," you made an amatonormative assumption, but there's no harm done as long as you respect the other person. however, if you tell the other person, "well, you don't have to celebrate it in a romantic way because there are other forms of love!" and continue to pester them about it, or otherwise put them down for their opinions on the subject, that's arophobic. lecturing aromantic people on different kinds of love when they bring up amatonormativity is one of the most common microaggressions against aro people, which i would like to point out because people are still doing it here in this very comment section. we already know there are different kinds of love. this is not news to us.

bringing it back to the discussion at hand: having a "lovestruck vs. heartbreak" theme, on its face, is not inherently amatonormative. however, the way people treat the theme can be. i do wonder what the people in charge of making the site assets were thinking about doing to represent the theme if it wins because i'd be willing to bet it would be largely represented by couples for one team and "bitter" lonely people for the other. the fact of the matter is, because of the biases present in our society, these words tend to carry more romantic connotations (this is amatonormativity.) sure, you can interpret the theme however you would like, but that doesn't change the fact that for most people, these words have that romantic connotation. if you tell the average person something has you "lovestruck," they will almost always assume you mean you have a crush on someone. is any of this arophobic? in my opinion, no. however, some of the backlash against aro people voicing their personal concerns has been very arophobic. people voicing a personal concern only to be shut down by others accusing them of overreacting or being "terminally online," saying it's "not that deep," calling their concerns "stupid," all of this is arophobia. i think people who are not on tumblr should read some of the things people have been saying over there because it has been textbook case aphobia on a site that already had a large-scale targeted harassment campaign against the aro community that did a lot of damage to it.

these concerns do not exist in a vacuum. amatonormativity is a societal pressure that follows us everywhere, and those of us who do not or cannot conform to it are much more aware of its everyday presence than the average person. that is why people feel alienated by the theme: not because of the theme itself, but how the community at large will likely interpret it. that does not mean the theme itself is inherently bad or discriminating against them, but they have the right to feel the way they do, and the dismissal and belittling of people who have raised concerns is absolutely aphobic.
Pushing the excitement of the theme options aside, I genuinely (and probably the others) want to know where the donations went towards the budget. As others have mentioned, there's a lack of transparency in regards to the budget. The donations have reached tier 2 so we're wanting to know if there are any updates to the site and when they can be expected to be implemented to the website.
HELP IS IS BLUESKy. KT IDOWN FOR SEVERYONE?????!!
Thanks I guess but it just seems like my art gets worse every time I draw
It's normal to feel that way, either you ARE improving and your style is just changing, or you have a form of art block. Sometimes there's a stretch where drawings just don't turn out, I've had it happen, I'm sure we've all had it happen. There's a few things you can do, take a hiatus, try drawing something new, look for inspiration on YouTube or Pinterest, etc.
Another really important thing to do is to not compare yourself to others. We all learn and evolve at different rates, and we all have different styles, so keep that in mind and stay awesome :)
as they say, do it scared, but you'll thank yourself later if you do it.
Blue sky is working for me
I just read the new update. EPIC AHHH!!! I'M SO HYPE Y'ALL I have collected so many bookmarks already YOU'RE NEXT ALL OF YOU
Help I only have like 1 book mark because I think I’ll remember everyone’s oc (spoiler I forgor already)
Sometimes u just need to get the bad vibes or “bad” art out before u start making masterpieces!!! ^^



Also I hate text cooldowns…
Hey bones! (We've talked before) I actually have one of your characters bookmarked lol how are you? And I have too many bookmarks
I filled out the poll and immediately forgot what my top pick was lol. I hope to see all of you in this year's artfight. Im going for big numbers here im glad the site is getting new changes and developments!!1 but I'm also curious to see how account deletion works on a trading sight like this. Wouldnt the loss of attacks/defenses from a deleted user skew profile statistics? where do those defenses/attacks go? if a user deletes their account during the event, do the points they earned stay on their team? i'm not even really worried about it, only reading into it too much lmao
sad to see tragedy vs comedy and chaos vs order not on the list :pensive: . hoping fossils vs crystals!

also trueee
wtf is this comment section lmfao
i hope for destruction vs creation because i like shiva and brahma

DARVO (an acronym for "deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender") is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior.[1]

Denial
The perpetrator denies the harm.
Attack
The perpetrator switches to attacking the person that they had harmed.
Reverse Victim and Offender
Finally, the perpetrator attempts to reverse bystanders' impressions through playing the victim.